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The seduction community I think started for the right reasons, to provide some guidance for men who found themselves adrift and confused in the dating world. So there was a need for sure, but like all needs in a free market economy there is potential for exploitation, and that is precisely what happened with the seduction community. And now it is a minefield of bad advice and psychologically damaging information, largely spun by gurus out to make money. Just because it is basically the only non PC dating advice readily accessible to men in large volume does not mean it is good advice. But like I said, one of the few good things about it is that you get to hear about other men's experiences through the forums and use that to help correct some of the more obvious errors. The biggest advantage anyone ever gets from the pick up arts is that it gets you to approach and become more confident and sexual. But in doing so you risk taking on an awful lot of bad beliefs which can even reverse some of the positive progress that is made.